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Tell it like it Is!

July 10, 2007 / by obliqueone

http://www.youtube.com/v/bfr55ka5gQw

It's about the time the media started telling the truth!

 

 

10 comments on Tell it like it Is!

  • jondude said 1 years ago
    Where have you been?[COOL]
  • billyb said 1 years ago
    I don't think I will be able to change your mind but don't you think Olberman has an agenda? We did find that Iraq sent a delegate to teh AlQueda conference in Indonesia where the 9-11 plot was hatched, we have discovered Sarin gas in Iraq, and no American citizen has been denied rights guaranteed in the Constitution.
    Extending Consitutional rights to POWs is very dangerous... if they have rights to attornies to they have rights against search and siezure and the right to vote?
    Olberman and the fringe left are practicing what Hitler preached in the early 30s- if you repeat a lie often enough it becomes the truth.
  • obliqueone said 1 years ago
    In response to Billyb

    "no American citizen has been denied rights guaranteed in the Constitution"
    umm... Ever? I'm pretty certain THAT one isn't true. I'm fairly certain it isn't even true recently.

    "Extending Consitutional rights to POWs is very dangerous... "
    Oh, I wasn't thinking that far... I was just thinking, you know, GENEVA CONVENTION. I doubt anyone is going to give POW's the right to vote, I mean where are you COMING from with that? Absolutely nobody thinks they should have that. Good Lord! Just the right to be free from torture so that we can set an example as the ENLIGHTENED country. The right not to be treated like McCain was during Vietnam would be nice as long as we are supposed to be setting an example.

    "Olberman [sic] and the fringe left are practicing what Hitler preached"
    Don't worry, I still think there's a bit of distance between the two. And a small black mustache.
  • billyb said 1 years ago
    I didn't mean that no American in the history of the country had ever had their rights denied; I just assumed we were talking about Olberman's comments of the recent period. Secondly, we are extending the constitutional right to an attorney so that opens a huge Pandora's box of other rights. If you say someone is entitled to the rights of an American citizen then you are saying just that. Think these things thru and consider the consequences. Thirdly, writing Geneva Convention in all caps is, you know, SARCASTIC but the convention covers uniformed combatants. People who kill while in civilian dress have never been protected and for good reason: they are not soldiers but murderers. When we start sawing heads off your argument may have a little more validity.
    I know you consider yourself enlightened but put some thought into the information you receive. Think critically and with your mind, not your heart.
  • obliqueone said 1 years ago
    Come on Billy, you'd gotten really hyperbolic with your argument at the beginning.

    Now, I like Olbermann's speech, because it was amusing and fun to FINALLY see a newsie take a stand on something. They all want to have an opinion, its refreshing to see one SAY what it is whether you agree with it or not. Even if he did entirely rip the idea off from the movie "Network." Remember that scene? "I'm mad and I'm not gonna take it any more!" - and and all the windows opening?

    Back to the debate we were having. We either are or are not having a war. You called them POW's. That was your word choice. If they are POW's they should have Geneva Convention protections. Not doing so puts our own missing soldiers, such as SGT Maupin and others (whom everyone seems to have conveniently forgotten), at a bizarre juxtaposition of status. Ask our "Missing/Captured" soldiers from this "War," "Action," or whatever you'd like to call it, how thrilled they are to be stripped of the Geneva guarantees they've held since 1949. Handy for the PENTAGON. But certainly not for them.
  • obliqueone said 1 years ago
    Hiya Jondude, Lots of badness in my life. I may get the guts to write about it at some point, haven't decided yet.
  • jondude said 1 years ago
    From the spume that some rightwing nuts have written on your post here, I assumed you took a nice vactation from the odor. Good to see ya!
    [THUMBUP][HEART][COOL]
  • obliqueone said 1 years ago
    I have quite a few wingnut friends. I'm like that, friends with everyone. Plus, if all of your friends share your politics, you'd never have anyone to argue with. Life would be so boring ;)
  • DGS1234 said 1 years ago
    Sadly, more lies from the Left, intent on opening the gates and letting the barbarians in to destroy what once was a great nation. They let no opportunity pass to attempt to restore power to all those who hate America and want their one-world, utopian doublespeak, socialist bullcrap to be recognized as the TRUTH and to bury all that made America the great hope of the world. Please excuse me if I opt out and vote to defend her.[THUMBDOWN][THUMBDOWN][THUMBDOWN]
  • obliqueone said 1 years ago
    I am defending HER. If by her, you mean our country. It was the reason for the post. Sorry, we're not going to agree on this one.

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